Amy McQuire: Spare us your false outrage

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On the day of the Abbott-Turnbull leadership spill in 2015, Channel Seven Sunrise host Samantha Armytage joined the talking heads from the other mainstream television stations outside Parliament House. It was the first parliamentary sitting day of the year, and they were broadcasting live – all of them set up next to each other, less than five metres apart. But they could not have anticipated the back drop.

That day, various Grandmothers Against Removals groups from around the country had descended on Canberra to protest against the skyrocketing rates of Aboriginal child removal. It had been organised months in advance.

About 100 people, many of them grandmothers who had experienced their grannies being taken away, many of whom had been placed in white families, stood behind the cameras waving Aboriginal flags and chanting for justice.

The response from ‘journalists’ Armytage and David Koch was worse than silence. In one of the ad breaks, they turned around and admonished those who had assembled behind them. Rather than listen to their stories, rather than hearing about their children, they castigated them for daring to interrupt their broadcast. As Armytage ‘tsked tsked’, Koch told them to look at the charities he donated to before addressing him.

This morning, Armytage appeared to have a change of heart. Suddenly she was deeply concerned about the children – the Aboriginal children who in her words, needed to be saved from “rape, assault and neglect”. Three years before, she couldn’t have cared less. They were just a pesky nuisance – a rowdy crowd interrupting her pretty backdrop.

It seems only white people are capable of caring for black children and so Sunrise invited two other white people onto a panel with Armytage today – commentator Prue MacSween and radio host Ben Davis, to respond to a story in the Daily Telegraph.

The story was splashed across the front page in three bold lines: “Save Our Children”. It relied on quotes from Minister for Children David Gillespie, who said now was the time to place Aboriginal children with white families.

“Foster care is not ideal but there is a reluctance to put them in a more permanent situation for fear of creating another Stolen Generation,’’ Dr Gillespie said in the paper.

Now, neither McSween, Davis or Armytage have any expertise in this area. None of them have any expertise in Aboriginal affairs. Their credibility rests on just one thing: they are all white. That has always been the most crucial criteria for a media commentator, after all.

It’s no surprise then, that all of them were in unison with McSween who called for another Stolen Generation, claiming the debate was a ‘no brainer’.
“You know we can’t have another generation of young Indigenous children being abused in this way, and this conspiracy of silence and this fabricated PC outlook that it’s better to leave them in this dangerous environment,” she said. “Just like the first Stolen Generation who were taken for their wellbeing, we have to do it again perhaps.”

According to Armytage, the arguments against this were not coming from Aboriginal people, but “many bureaucrats, many of them white”, before throwing to Davis, who quoted Warren Mundine and claimed Aboriginal people are “the culture they are growing up and seeing, they are getting abused and hurt and damaged.”

Armytage then replied: “Let’s hope some sense prevails here, poor kids”.

For a journalist, Armytage is neither objective nor well-researched. It’s doubtful she should call herself a journalist at all. There were many mistruths regurgitated in that short segment (and it’s interesting that despite their deep concern, they can only afford a few minutes to discussing it).

One, the idea that Aboriginal children are not being placed in white families is a lie. The kinship and Aboriginal child placement principals in many states and territories recognise the need for Aboriginal children to be kept in communities, or in extended families. But often, in  practice this principal has fallen far short of its aims. A parliamentary inquiry into out-of-home care in 2015 heard that it can often come down to the whim of an individual child protection worker, and that the idea of placing a child with a non-Indigenous carer is not often a “last resort”.

Suellyn Tighe from Grandmother’s Against Removals NSW told the inquiry:

“We have the Aboriginal placement principle, which states that you must follow this hierarchical system for placement of the children. That is not being adhered to at all—or only in very, very few cases. I do not think that I know anywhere it has been adhered to. I have not met anyone yet. The fact is that that is happening and it is law. The department is continually superseding that. The Department of Family and Community Services supersedes the law of the Aboriginal placement principle with sibling placement policies. That is a departmental policy; it is not legislation.”

There was also the issue of child protection agencies not consulting with families about child placements, and children, even those placed in kinship care, being separated from their respective communities and cultures.

In Victoria, as reported by the Guardian’s Calla Walqhuist, a third of First Nations children are placed with Aboriginal kin, and 41.6 percent are placed with non-Indigenous carers.

There are horrendous stories I have heard of children being effectively stolen from their families, with no consultation – being taken from schools or communities by police. When a child is taken away, it is very hard for families to get them back, even after a parent has done everything the department tells them they have to do.

The greater lie is that Aboriginal children are not being taken away and are being kept in dangerous situations for fear of a “stolen generation”. That does not gel with the statistics: Aboriginal children are being taken away at exponential rates and these rates have grown every year since Kevin Rudd gave his apology to the Stolen Generations and promised it would “never happen again”.

Claiming that the Stolen Generations were not real, and that the removals were carried out “for their own wellbeing” is overwhelmingly disrespectful to the testimony of so many of our elders, aunties, uncles and grandparents who continue to live with the trauma of forced removals.

Currently there are more than 16,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children in out-of-home care. These are rates higher than those taken under the Stolen Generations – prompting some to say this practice never stopped, it just changed its skin.

While non-Indigenous children are more likely to be taken away for physical and emotional abuse, Aboriginal children are largely taken away because of “neglect”, which is often seen as a subjective term based on cultural interpretation.

As Aboriginal children and families are being torn apart due to their poverty, there is little investment in the community – there is little focus on what can be done to make community and families safer so that children can remain at home, and grow up with their family. It is not because Aboriginal parents don’t care about their children.

As Aboriginal researcher BJ Newton found in her thesis on how Aboriginal parents view child protection, there was an overwhelming feeling of powerlessness about being able to change their circumstance.

“A good example was where there was a mum with a young family,” Newtown told me last year. “They had the choice — they could either be homeless, or they could be moved to a place in town, but the public housing was only available in the middle of a drug-fuelled area.

“The mother and father had had a lot of problems with [substance abuse] in the past, and they were trying to overcome that.

“The mother was very angry with the Department of Housing for placing her in that local area when she was trying to get her older children back. She knew there was no way she would have a chance of getting them back if she was placed there. So she felt powerless.”

Of course, you would not hear the testimony of this mother on a show like Sunrise – which is focused on centreing white outrage.

Taking a child away is not the best option. We already know that children who have been placed in the child protection system are more likely to end up in juvenile detention, and then adult jail.  They are also likely to experience traumatic stressors which follow them through their life and impact on their development. These are not simple issues. These are not “no brainers”. These are complex situations that do not deserve the two-minute sermonising from white people who have no understanding and no real interest in Aboriginal children.

Of course we are in a situation now where children are sometimes not safe in some homes. This situation is based on a continuing legacy of colonisation that has compounded intergeneration trauma, and resulted in behaviours like alcohol dependency, drug addiction and violence.

Trauma is not just a word easily swatted away like a fly – it has real physiological, psychological and biological impacts on a person, regardless of race. The difference is Aboriginal people have had to deal with complex and collective trauma that has compounded throughout the generations.

So that means of course there are some children who need to be taken away.  But there should be a concerted effort to place children with families – with aunties, uncles, or grandparents, and if not, other members of the community. And there should be a concerted effort to support Aboriginal mothers and fathers so they can raise their children in a safe and loving environment.

We have seen in so many cases how violent the child protection system can be. Think of young Tiahleigh Palmer, who was murdered while in foster care with a white family. Think of the little 20-month-old Aboriginal baby who died in foster care in central western NSW in 2015.

If a child is taken away from their family they are placed in the care of the minister. Shouldn’t there be accountability? How can we be assured that they are not placed in more danger than what they were in, given the state of the child protection system?

That’s not to say there aren’t many great carers out there – Indigenous and non-Indigenous – but the removal of children should always be the last resort. The media favours the opposite – taking away more and more black children under the pretence that they are “saving them”.

“Saving the children” are the three most dangerous words uttered by white people.   

In this debate, Aboriginal children have not only been ripped away from us, there has in the rhetoric of front pages like the Daily Telegraph been an attempt to assimilate them. Suddenly they are owned by Australia, they are “ours”, they are homogenised into a mass where they can be pitied and rescued by white saviours.

This is dangerous because Aboriginal Australia does not want or need saving. There are many Aboriginal people working in this very area, all across the country, who are calling for a more nuanced, evidence-based conversation that prioritises the need of children to not only be safe and healthy, but also to be raised in their culture and their communities.  

If Armytage and her colleagues really cared about black children, they would have taken a few minutes to listen to those strong grandmothers outside Parliament House three years ago, grandmothers who have first hand experience of the child protection system stealing their children. Instead they turned up their noses, and then turned their backs.


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  1. Let’s look at the real story of why they talked about removing our kids into white foster home’s, it’s crucial to look at the timing of when they started to air that on Sunrise and the reason to stir the pot by pointing the finger at the Aboriginal community.

    At the same time, Sunrise and the powers to be strategy is to defect attention away from from the real issue with Cardinal Pell appearance in Melbourne court the same time for covering up the child sexual abuse and paedophilia ring within the catholic foster homes of white children and Aboriginal children by the priest and brothers etc, over decades.

    Again, the whole purpose blaming Aboriginal families was to cover-up and draw your attention away from the real issue of the child sexual abuse committed by white priest on white children controlled by the white institution.

    In 2002 an investigation brought attention about the world wide institutionalised child sexual abuse cover-up by the Catholic Church, which also happened in Australia under the eyes of Cardinal Pell’s administration in the following places; Adelaide, Ballarat, Base Hill, Bathurst, Bindoon, Canberra, Dandenong, Goulburn, Hobart, Lance Field, Melbourne, Mildura, Mittagong, MT Isa, Neerkol, Perth, Sydney, Toowoomba, Wagga Wagga and Wollongong.

  2. I really appreciate the clarity of your views here, but I must admit to being confused about the alternatives. I agree that kids removed from their families should be placed with kin wherever possible, but my understanding is that this is often not an option. What’s the solution to protecting children if placing them with kin isn’t an option? Or are you saying that “neglect” is being used inappropriately as a basis for the removal of children? Would appreciate someone shedding some light on this.

  3. It is outrageous that people and journalists on Sunrise can comment on such a complex issue with barely any knowledge. I think most people suffer from an uninformed white centred perspective because they do not know any better. As people living in Australia we need to be more engaged and informed of the needs and lives of Aboriginal people, so we can be supportive rather than make dicks of ourselves. I think that we first need to respect Aboriginal cultures, perspectives and voices. I am very interested in learning more, so that I can stand up, encourage and support Aboriginal people to have more power and sovereignty in their own country. I think we should all be paying the ‘rent’ as part of our taxes, and would suggest this money went to trusted elders and indigenous groups who could use it to promote their culture, create jobs, provide infrastructure, schooling health, good food etc, etc. There would be much less need for Welfare and all the other interventions created by poverty. Why are we so greedy that we cannot pay the rent? I am willing!

  4. My family is stastic of new era stolen generation kids and grandkids. For the last 17yrs I have been trying to advocate and get my story out there with no support or help in explaining my situation of my daughters plight and grandskids ploght under this inhumane system of lies and deciet, to separate and keepong our families apart. I am indigenous and have told quite a numerous number of family and friends of my horrendous situation they used and abused us in. They bred my ice addict daughter to have 7 kids, with myself pleading with them to abort, because I knew they would end up in a strangers care and not with my husband and myself, because I am indigenous. And it goes on and on. I have so much to tell and nobody listens.

  5. Brilliantly explained …… and should be the lead article in every newspaper in Oz tommorow ….. but wont

  6. Sam Armytage is nothing but an attention seeker and her god is her program ratings. The most obvious solution that we should have learnt from the past is to have the various decision makers and their supporters actually engage with the communities to understand the culture and their strengths and incorporate this in with whatever policy that is formulated. Help can be given withou erasing the identity and self worth just because some uniformed people feel the white ways are the best even if evidence points otherwise. We hear the same old rhetoric from Sam armytage and their like while generations of knowledge are lost while our precious lawmakers in Canberra are busy behaving like kids on taxpayers expense. Sam and David should experience life in an abroginal community for at least 6 months before voicing opinions on subjects they know nothing about. Well done Amy for a clear and factual article.para

  7. Thank you Amy you have said all I wanted to say . I also needed to address the fact Mr Mundaine does not speak for me if Mr Gillipsie is looking for cheap votes, let me remind you sir we have long memories

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